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Phillies Considering Angel Pagan

1 Dec

pagan1Last night FOX’s Ken Rosenthal linked the Phillies to Angel Pagan, saying that he believed that the 31-year old Pagan had emerged as the Phillies next target for a center fielder.

In 2012 Pagan hit .288/.331/.440 with eight homers and 29 steals.  His career numbers are a bit lower than that, and his 2012 campaign has likely inflated his price tag.

One of the plusses of signing Pagan would be that he’d come much cheaper then guys like Michael Bourn, and Josh Hamilton. This would leave the Phillies with some spending money for their bullpen and a third baseman.  The market for a third basemen is very, very thin, but there are plenty of  premiere relievers out there.

I honestly don’t think that Pagan is much better then Shane Victorino, but Shane’s 2012 season was not very good, and I don’t see the Phillies calling about Shane unless he dwindles on the market for another month or so.  If The Phillies made a move for a big time left or right fielder, then I could see Shane coming back to play center mainly for his defense, but that’s a really big if.

I still think that the price tag of Michael Bourn is too high, and that’s why the Nationals and Braves went elsewhere, and I know that Josh Hamilton would excite everyone, but this team already has a large collection of players making over $2oMM a season (Halladay, Lee, Howard, Hamels) and with all his baggage would it really be smart to have $100MM committed to just five players?

Pagan may just be the best choice available.  If the Phillies can get him for 3 years, then I’d be satisfied, although he’s not really much of an upgrade over what we had in Victorino last year.  The Giants are probably his #1 choice, as he just won a World Series with them, so three years probably won’t do it.

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Melky Suspension May Disrupt Phillies

15 Aug

Like it or not, the suspension of Melky Cabrera is going to have an impact on the Phillies offseason plans.

Cabrera was suspended for 50 games for violating Major League Baseball’s drug policy, as he tested positive for elevated levels of testosterone. Cabrera had denied reports of the test for a number of weeks after rumors swirled of the test around the time of the All-Star game.

Cabrera was the All-Star Game MVP, and was leading the league in runs, and hits.

The Phillies toyed with the idea of trying to trade for Melky last season before making their move for Hunter Pence, and given their need for a center fielder next season, would likely have considered trying to sign him as a free agent this fall.

They still could.

For Cabrera it was a mistake that will cost him millions, as he was likely in line to entertain offers above $75MM for his services going forward.  He was going to be one of the three most sought after outfielders this fall with Michael Bourn, and Shane Victorino. All along I was kinda hoping that Bourn would be our number one target, but with this suspension to Cabrera it may actually increase Bourn’s price.

With Bourn’s price already looking to be sky high, and Melky’s suspension makes the market for a premiere outfielder a little bit thinner.  At the same time it’s possible that a team might get a huge discount if a team decides to grab Cabrera in free agency, but of course there is plenty of risk there, since you really don’t know what you’re going to get.

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Phillies Tidbits

5 Aug
  • Cliff Lee will remain a Phillie for the remainder of 2012, as the window on the Dodgers’ waiver claim closed today. Lee coughed up three home runs in a no-decision against the Diamondbacks this afternoon.  Lee looked great at times, but continues to attack
  • Kyle Kendrick will start on Wednesday against the Braves.  Kendrick stepped in as a spot starter on Friday when Dodgers acquired Joe Blanton just before game time. Kendrick will be making his 15th start of the season which earns him a $100,000 bonus.
  • Jimmy Rollins got Sunday off after going hitless in his last three games.  Rollins was batting .187 in his last 22 games.  Rollins came on to pinch hit for Michael Martinez in the 8th, and finished the game. He popped out in his lone at-bat.
  • The Phillies announced that they have released infielder Mike Fontenot.  The Phils designated Fontenot for assignment on August 1.  Mike was released to make room on the roster when the Phillies acquired Josh Lindblom and Nate Schierholtz. Fontenot, 32, hit .289/.343/.340 in 105 plate appearances this year for the Phillies.  The veteran signed a minor league deal with the Phillies in April and split time between second and third base in 2012.
  • Shane Victorino is batting .167 (2-12) with 1 run scored and 1 stolen base in three games with the Dodgers.
  • Hunter Pence is batting .118 (2-17) with zero runs, 2 RBI and 3K’s in four games with the Giants.
  • The Phillies observed a moment of silence for Garrett Reid before Sunday’s game. The 29-year-old son of Eagles head coach Andy Reid was found dead in his room at the Eagles training camp at Lehigh University on Sunday morning. Local police said there were no “suspicious” activity and no cause of death has been determined.

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Same Here Shane

2 Aug

Classy move by Shane Victorino.  Full page ad taken out in the Philadelphia Daily News.

By the way, Shane went 0-4 in his Dodger debut, and Hunter Pence went 0-4 in his debut with the Giants.

The new era of Phillies baseball has begun.  2-0, huh?

Being the spoiler might just be fun.

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Deal Complete – Hunter Pence to the Giants

31 Jul

Official: The Phillies have acquired OF Nate Schierholtz, C Tommy Joseph and RHP Seth Rosin from Giants for OF Hunter Pence.

Here is the official release.

The Phillies have traded right fielder Hunter Pence to the San Francisco Giants in exchange for outfielder Nate Schierholtz, catcher Tommy Joseph and right-hander Seth Rosin, Senior Vice President & General Manager Ruben Amaro Jr. announced today.  The Phillies also sent cash considerations to the Giants.

Schierholtz, 28, was hitting .257 with five doubles, five triples, five home runs and 17 RBI in 77 games.  A left-handed hitter, Schierholtz has made 37 starts in right field this year.  As a pinch-hitter this year, he had six hits in 28 at-bats (.214), but for his career owns a .296 (37-125) pinch average with two home runs and 16 RBI.  Selected in the second round by the Giants in the 2003 draft, Schierholtz had spent his entire professional career with the organization and is a career .270 hitter with 23 home runs, 119 RBI and 20 stolen bases in 503 major league games.

Joseph, 21, was hitting .260 with eight home runs and 38 RBI in 80 games for double-A Richmond this season.  Last year, he batted .270 with 22 home runs and 95 RBI in 127 games for single-A San Jose.  Joseph was originally selected in the second round of the 2009 draft out of Horizon High School in Scottsdale, Az.

Rosin, 23, has gone 2-1 with 10 saves and a 4.31 ERA in 34 games (five starts) for single-A San Jose this season. In his 56.1 innings pitched, the 6-foot-6, 250-pound right-hander has 68 strikeouts (10.86 SO/9.0 IP). Rosin was a fourth-round selection of the Giants in the 2010 draft out of the University of Minnesota.

Pence, 29, was acquired by the Phillies on July 29 of last season from the Houston Astros.  In 155 games for the Phillies since his acquisition, he batted .289 with 27 doubles, 28 home runs and 94 RBI.  This season, Pence was hitting .271 with 17 home runs and 59 RBI in 101 games.  He was leading the Phillies in runs (59), hits (108), home runs, RBI, walks (37) and total bases (178) and was tied for the lead in games.

 

I’m not as big on this deal as a I am with the Victorino deal.  Tommy Joseph looks like a great catcher, but the Phillies also have Sebastian Valle in Reading.  Nate Schierholtz almost seems like a throw-in.

Update: 2:04 PM EST The Phillies will also acquire Single-A RHP Seth Rosin for Hunter Pence.  The final deal should be announced shortly.  Leslie Gudel of ComcastSportsnet Philadelphia says that Hunter Pence just left the Phillies clubhouse, and he said he was “Surprised.”  Pence also said “We had a great run.  Now I’ve been sent off.” 

Update 1:51 PM EST Henry Schulman of the San Francisco Cronicle is reporting that Nate Schierholtz has been told he’s “Going to Philadelphia.”   It sounds like a mult-level/player deal is almost in place. 

Update 1:18 PM EST The deal is not yet finalized, as physicals and a few other details need to be sorted out.  Still sounds like Pence is headed West, but for who, we’re unsure. 

Update 12:50 PM EST Todd Zolecki of MLB.com is speculating that Nate Schierholtz might be part of the deal for Pence.  Schierholtz has been looking for a change of scenery. 

Update 12:35 PM EST Danny Knobler of CBSSports.com is reporting that one of the players the Phillies have aquired is Tommy Joeseph. Tommy is catcher and first baseman.   The rest of the details are not yet ironed out, but Hunter is headed to SF. 

It’s also being reported by Jayson Stark that the Phillies will NOT aquire Gary Brown, Brandon Belt, or Kyle Crick. 

I loved the heart that Hunter Pence brought to Philadelphia, but it just didn’t work out.

Hunter Pence is headed to San Francisco.

Pence, 29, is hitting .271/.336/.447 in 440 plate appearances for the Phillies this year.

I’m pretty curious what they’re going to do on Hunter Pence Bobblehead night in a few weeks.

If Tommy Joeseph is included, the Phillies have gotten a good catching prospect who could eventually replace Chooch. The Phillies gave up some good players to get Pence last year from the Astros, so you know that Ruben Amaro Jr. is pushing hard for a good return on him today.

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Trade Update: Shane Victorino

31 Jul

  • Update: 10:10 AM EST – ESPN’S Jayson Stark is reporting that the Dodgers and Phillies are “Very close” to a deal for Shane Victorino.  Deal said to be for Josh Lindbloom, and another player. 
  • Update: 1:15 AM EST – Jerry Crasnick of ESPN tweets that the Dodgers and the Reds are the only teams that are still on Vic.  My thoughts are The Dodgers just acquired Brandon League from the Mariners, who would be perfect to flip to the Philles. 

Give Ruben Amaro Jr. a little credit, he’s not giving away anything.

One of the reasons that the Phillies are going down to the wire with their trades, is that Amaro isn’t parting with any of his players without a fight.  Shane Victorino is one of them.

Victorino is hitting .261/.324/.401 in 431 plate appearances this year, and the Giants, Reds, and Dodgers have been named as other potential suitors for Shane.   Jerry Crasnick of ESPN says that Giants are only discussing one Phillies outfielder, and it’s Hunter Pence. They apparently are not in on Victorino.

The word with the beats is that the Phillies are pushing Pence harder then Shane, but that may just be because they know Shane will be easier to unload.

The Reds need a leadoff hitter and Victorino has been their top target, Danny Knobler of CBSSports.com reports, however the Reds don’t like the Phillies’ asking price for Victorino.

The Dodgers seem to make the most sense.  They are without the speedy Dee Gordon for a few more weeks, and could use a little speed at the top of their lineup. They also have the cash and prospects to make it happen.

Right now the market for Shane is pretty calm, but by noon on Tuesday, things should be cooking. Stay tuned.

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Trade Update: Hunter Pence

30 Jul

Update: 12:16 PM EST Now that Victorino has moved to the Dodgers the Hunter Pence talks are heating up according to Jim Salisbury of CSNPhilly.  Jon Heyman of CBSSports says that the Giants are closing in on Pence. 

There have been some rumblings of talks between the Giants and the Phillies about Hunter Pence, and Jerry Crasnick of ESPN says that Giants are only discussing one Phillies outfielder, and it’s Pence. They apparently are not in on Victorino.  That’s as of 10:45 EST.

I guess it’s kinda surprising, but some teams just don’t like rentals.

Being able to have control over Pence in 2013 is probably important to the Giants, however Pence will likely get somewhere north of $14MM after he goes to arbitration. That might make things difficult for them since they don’t know what they’re going to do with Tim Lincecum and they have a bunch of arbitration eligible players like Buster Posey, and Brian Wilson.  Not to mention that they might want to try and lock up Melky Cabrera, who is having another amazing season.

This might be one to watch.

The Giants have a collection of interesting prospects for the Phillies to consider, and unlike the Blanton talks, with Pence the Phillies are looking for a SERIOUS haul.  Centerfileder Gary Brown, Shortstop Joe Panik, and catcher Hector Sanchez are all ones to think about.

Gary Brown is probably the centerpiece of this deal since the Phillies have no idea what’s going on with prospect Tyson Gillies, and all his off the field troubles.

Philliesnation.com has similar thoughts.

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